Why it May Be Petra
Are
some of God's people actually going to flee right before the tribulation?
According to Jesus the answer is yes.
Jesus
taught,
''And
pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there
will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the
world until this time, no nor ever shall be" (Matthew 24:20-21, NKJV.
Do
all know that those who need to be warned include the members of the Churches
of God (COGs)?
(Some
Christians apparently will be in Jerusalem around this time and will also
flee--more information on that is included in the article Who is the King of the North?)
Many
issues of The Journal used to have had somewhere (normally in an ad) an
assertion to the effect that "Petra is not the place of safety" (or
that there will be no such place). The December 2001 edition even contained the
following quote,
Mr.
Henson sees relevance in Joshua 15, where Joshua assigns the tribe of Judah its
boundaries. 'This passage talks about a "salt sea" (verse 2), which
could bring to mind Utah's Great Salt Lake. "If you take away the J [from
the word Judah] and change the D to a T, you have Utah,' he pointed out. 'Also,
in verse 55 appears the name Juttah, which is the same as Utah if one simply
deletes the J and one of the T's.'
The
purpose of this article is to explain some of the reasons why Petra seems to be
a more logical choice to be the "place of safety" for the
Philadelphians.
Two
Basic Groups: The Philadelphians and the Others in the Church of God
Let
this be perfectly clear, there are two groups of God's people mentioned in
Revelation 12--one which goes to a place of safety and one which does not. It
states:
But
the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the
wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a
time, from the presence of the serpent. So the serpent spewed water out of his
mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away
by the flood.
But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (vv. 14-17).
But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (vv. 14-17).
The
above shows that the church (symbolized by a woman) has to "fly into the
wilderness to her place". Being in heaven with Jesus is not the same as
being in any wilderness--hence this is not some type of "rapture" as many
Protestants believe in. Also notice that the church "is nourished for a
time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent." Hence,
this is how Jesus is intending to keep His Philadelphia Church "from the
hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world" (3:10).
Notice
also that since a flood of water is used to try to destroy the church, but is
helped by the earth, that the church is NOT in heaven, but on the earth (speaking
of water coming out of the mouth of the serpent--that is what the last page of
the famed Dresden Codex of the Mayan 2012 prophecies shows, though the flood
does not seem there to be directed against a church--to view that photo, please
see the article End of Mayan Calendar
2012--Might 2012 Mean Something?).
Carefully
notice that just keeping the commandments of God and having the testimony of
Jesus Christ is not enough to ensure that one will go "into the
wilderness", be "nourished", and protected "from the
presence of the serpent". The dragon, through the Beast power, will “make
war” with those who do not go. For "the saints shall be given to his hand for
a time and times and half a time" (Daniel 7:25).
Jesus
himself warned,
But
take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing,
drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For
it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all
these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man"
(Luke 21:34-36).
Whether
you believe that the churches mentioned in Revelation 2 & 3 are prophetic
church eras
or conditions that exist within the Church throughout history (or both), it
seems clear that some will be protected and others will not. Regarding the
letter to the angel of the Church of Philadelphia, Revelation 3:10-11
states,
Because
you have kept my command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of
trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the
earth. Behold I come quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take
your crown.
The
Philadelphians are the only ones that God promises to keep “from the hour of
trial that comes upon the whole world”. Regarding the letter to the angel of
the church of the
Laodiceans
shows they walk a different path: "As many as I love, I rebuke and
chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent" (v.19).
What
are the differences between those groups? To the Philadelphians, Jesus said,
I
know your works. See I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut
it; for you have have a little strength, kept My word, and have not denied My
name (v. 8).
The
message starts out the same for the Laodiceans, "I know your works...” but
it certainly does not end the same--
...that
you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then,
because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my
mouth. Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of
nothing'--and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and
naked--I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be
rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your
nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you
may see (vv.15-18).
The
Philadelphians are promised to be kept from the hour of trial because they kept
God's "command to persevere" or as the AV says "kept the word of
my patience" (v. 10).
If the Philadelphia era of the Church existed while Herbert W. Armstrong was alive (as he believed it was), could this possibly mean that the remaining remnant of the Philadelphia era are the ones who still believe, teach, and practice what Jude referred to as "the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints" (Jude 3)?
(Click here for the article What is a True Philadelphian?) Would this not include the 18 truths that HWA restored to the Church of God without adding extrabiblical requirements? Would not this Church also have the same priority of proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom to the world? Remember Jesus said, "Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes" (Luke 12:43).
I perhaps should add that groups and independents that misunderstand prophecy (such as those concerning The King of the South and Zephaniah 2) will probably rationalize themselves away from fleeing when it will be time to go--and they will be refined (it is also possible that God may somehow use some of them to assist The Two Witnesses).
If the Philadelphia era of the Church existed while Herbert W. Armstrong was alive (as he believed it was), could this possibly mean that the remaining remnant of the Philadelphia era are the ones who still believe, teach, and practice what Jude referred to as "the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints" (Jude 3)?
(Click here for the article What is a True Philadelphian?) Would this not include the 18 truths that HWA restored to the Church of God without adding extrabiblical requirements? Would not this Church also have the same priority of proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom to the world? Remember Jesus said, "Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes" (Luke 12:43).
I perhaps should add that groups and independents that misunderstand prophecy (such as those concerning The King of the South and Zephaniah 2) will probably rationalize themselves away from fleeing when it will be time to go--and they will be refined (it is also possible that God may somehow use some of them to assist The Two Witnesses).
John
Ogwyn had some interesting insights on some of the differences between the Philadelphia Church and the Laodicean Era as he wrote the
following prior to the formation of the United Church of God:
In
Revelation 3, we read of two final phases of the history of the Church of God.
The Church of Philadelphia was to be characterized by a zeal to do the Work.
God promised to set before them an 'open door' as well as to protect them from
the future Great Tribulation. However, there is a final seventh stage of the
Church described, as the Church at Laodicea. This church was to be described by
spiritual lukewarmness and lethargy.
It is described as a worldly church, and certainly one which fit in with the spirit of these permissive, modern times...Some of God's people have been overwhelmed by the cares and problems of this life or by personal problems and have dropped by the wayside. Others have been deceived by false prophets and have gone into apostasy.
Still others have become so lethargic and softened by comfort that they have lost their vision and merely wish to maintain local churches, no longer caring about doing the Work...Will you be one whom God uses to finish his end-time Work?
Do you have that true Philadelphian spirit that reaches out to the whole world in genuine love and concern to share God's message of Truth and hope? Do you consider it important that the House of Israel be warned of the impending time of Jacob's trouble?
It is described as a worldly church, and certainly one which fit in with the spirit of these permissive, modern times...Some of God's people have been overwhelmed by the cares and problems of this life or by personal problems and have dropped by the wayside. Others have been deceived by false prophets and have gone into apostasy.
Still others have become so lethargic and softened by comfort that they have lost their vision and merely wish to maintain local churches, no longer caring about doing the Work...Will you be one whom God uses to finish his end-time Work?
Do you have that true Philadelphian spirit that reaches out to the whole world in genuine love and concern to share God's message of Truth and hope? Do you consider it important that the House of Israel be warned of the impending time of Jacob's trouble?
Greek
Terms May Also Describe the Groups
Looking
at the meanings of the names of the different churches may help reveal some
characteristics of each. According to Strong's Greek concordance,
Philadelphia means "fraternal affection", "brotherly love",
"love of the brethren", "fond of the brethren".
Also
according to Strong's, Laodicea is a combination of two words, laos
which it defines as "people" and dike, which is defined by Strong's
as "right", "judgment", "punish", and
"vengeance". Smith's Bible Dictionary defines Laodicea to mean
"justice of the people".
Might the term Laodicean convey that the predominant characteristic of this Church is that people rule, the people judge, or, in fact that the people are judgmental? I personally feel that the term Laodicea conveys a difference in governance and that most Laodiceans have rejected the restored truth about governance (which results in a lukewarm attitude about doing the work).
Might the term Laodicean convey that the predominant characteristic of this Church is that people rule, the people judge, or, in fact that the people are judgmental? I personally feel that the term Laodicea conveys a difference in governance and that most Laodiceans have rejected the restored truth about governance (which results in a lukewarm attitude about doing the work).
What
Happens to Those Not in a Place of Protection?
We
have seen that God will not keep those in the Laodicea era of His Church from entering the
tribulation. So what, specifically, will happen to those who are not in a place
of protection? Some of the answers may lie in the book of Lamentations, which
details that time:
The
tongue of the infant clings To the roof of its mouth for thirst; The young
children ask for bread, But no one breaks it for them...Those slain by the
sword are better off Than those who die by hunger; For these pine away,
Stricken for lack of the fruit of the field.
The hands of the compassionate women Have cooked their own children; They became food for them In the destruction of the daughter of my people...Our pursuers were swifter Than the eagles of the heavens. They pursued us on the mountains And lay in wait for us in the wilderness (Lamentations 4:4-19).
The hands of the compassionate women Have cooked their own children; They became food for them In the destruction of the daughter of my people...Our pursuers were swifter Than the eagles of the heavens. They pursued us on the mountains And lay in wait for us in the wilderness (Lamentations 4:4-19).
This
book, written by the prophet Jeremiah, foretells what will happen to the
modern-day descendants of Israel, and indications are that it may include "spiritual"
and not just physical Israel (i.e., Lamentations 1:4,2:20,4:7,5:21-22). Even if
you believe that these prophecies were fulfilled around the fall of Jerusalem
in 70 A.D., remember Jesus said,
For
then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning
of the world until this time, no nor ever shall be (Matthew 24:21).
Thus,
we can look at the most horrifying events that have happened in the past and
yet realize that the coming Tribulation will be worse.
Since
a portion of God's people have fallen in the past (I Corinthians 10:1-11), many
things were recorded "for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages
have come. Therefore let him who thinks he stand take heed lest he fall"
(I Corinthians 10:11-12).
Matthew 24:22 states, "And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved" yet, though the situation appears bleak--almost hopeless--notice the conclusion of the verse, "but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened".
Matthew 24:22 states, "And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved" yet, though the situation appears bleak--almost hopeless--notice the conclusion of the verse, "but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened".
Similarly
in Jeremiah 30:7 it says, "Alas! For that day is great, So that none is
like it; And it is the time of Jacob's trouble, But he shall be saved out of
it". Yes, God will deliver some of His Spirit-begotten children from the
the physical terror of the Tribulation. He'll deliver the remnant of the
Philadelphians. For Jesus says, "But not a hair of your head shall be
lost" (Luke 21:18).
Just
prior to the time of the Great Tribulation, the arch-angel Michael stands up to
help God's people:
1
"At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch
over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as
never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your
people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. (Daniel
12:1)
The
expression "At that time" is the same Hebrew expression that is in
Daniel 11:35. This suggests that Michael will likely provide protection to
God's people when they flee (more on prophetic sequence in Daniel can be found
in the article Who is the King of
the North?).
Are
most of God's people going to go to a place of protection or most going to go
through the Tribulation?
The
Bible seems to give us clues. The three places where the NKJ Bible uses the
expression "time and times and half a time" are Revelation 12:14,
Daniel 7:25, and Daniel 12:7. They seem to be referring to the same time
period. Daniel 12:7 states "a time, times, and half a time, and when the
power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall
be finished". This suggests that nearly all of the "holy people"
are affected.
In
Daniel 7:24-25 it states,
The
ten horns are ten kings Who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall
rise after them; He shall be different from the first ones, And shall subdue
three kings. He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall
persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and
law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half
a time.
Note
that the saints will be persecuted before they are "given into his
hand"; perhaps that means all of God's people will be persecuted before
the period "time and times and half a time" begins.
The expressions "completely shattered" and "the saints shall be given into his hand" seem to suggest that most of the saints will be in the tribulation. We know this cannot mean all because the book of Revelation says the Philadelphians will be kept from the hour of trial (3:10)--protected "from the presence of the serpent" (cf. 12:14).
God will in some way separate Christians living in when these terrible calamities finally come to be. Some will be protected from the Tribulation--many, however, will not be! (3:16).
The expressions "completely shattered" and "the saints shall be given into his hand" seem to suggest that most of the saints will be in the tribulation. We know this cannot mean all because the book of Revelation says the Philadelphians will be kept from the hour of trial (3:10)--protected "from the presence of the serpent" (cf. 12:14).
God will in some way separate Christians living in when these terrible calamities finally come to be. Some will be protected from the Tribulation--many, however, will not be! (3:16).
Why
would God allow much of the Church to go through tribulation? Daniel 11:35
states,
And
some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purge them, and make
them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed
time.
Also
Daniel 12:9-10 states,
And
he said, 'Go your way Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed til the
time of the end. Many shall be purified and made white, and refined, but the
wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise
shall understand.
Who
is counseled to by gold that has been refined? Who is warned that they will be
rebuked and chastened? The Laodiceans (Revelation 3:18,19). Even when Babylon
the great is clearly evident on the world scene, it seems that God's people
still need to be warned, "And I heard another voice from heaven saying,
'Come out of her my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of
her plagues'" (18:4). Some, sadly, probably will "receive of her
plagues" (or that warning would probably have not been necessary).
Some
Clues about Where the Place Isn't
Although
some have suggested that the Bible gives no clue about where the place of
safety will be, this is inaccurate. First notice that apparently some of God's
people will apparently be in the area of Judea and Jerusalem around this time:
5
Declare in Judah and proclaim in Jerusalem, and say:
"Blow
the trumpet in the land; Cry, 'Gather together,' And say, 'Assemble yourselves, And let us go into the fortified cities.' 6 Set up the standard toward Zion.
Take refuge! Do not delay! For I will bring disaster from the north, And great destruction." (Jeremiah 4:5-6)
The
above passage is suggesting that there will be a time that will come that those
in Judea and Jerusalem will have to flee into a place of defense. This is
consistent with what Jesus told His followers to do in Matthew 24 :15-16 when
they see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel (which happens right
after the sacrifices, which have not yet started, have been stopped).
And Jeremiah is basically warning that disaster will come from the north--in this case apparently the King of the North. And this may be because some of God's people have fled to Judea/Jerusalem in order to escape from some of the persecutions from this northern power (for more information on WHEN to flee, please see the article Who is the King of the North?).
And Jeremiah is basically warning that disaster will come from the north--in this case apparently the King of the North. And this may be because some of God's people have fled to Judea/Jerusalem in order to escape from some of the persecutions from this northern power (for more information on WHEN to flee, please see the article Who is the King of the North?).
In
Luke 21:20-21, Jesus confirmed the concept that some of His people would be in
the same area and would need to flee:
But
when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is
near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are
in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her.
It
thus appears that the place of safety is not in Jerusalem or Judea.
Since
the Bible also warns that God's people should flee Babylon and go out of
Chaldea (Jeremiah 50:8;51:6,44-45; Zechariah 2:7; Revelation 18:4), Babylon and
Chaldea apparently are not the places either.
Notice
the following,
"Flee
from the land of the north", says the LORD...Up Zion! Escape you that
dwell with the daughter of Babylon (Zechariah 2:6,7).
This
not only suggests that the place may not be in a northern land, but that some
Christians will have need to flee from the land of the north.
Since
the Bible seem to forecast near total destruction to the islands of the world
(Revelation 6:12-14; 16:17-21), no island seems to be a likely place (more
information can be found in the article Islands and Bible Prophecy).
More
Information About the Place
"He
who walks righteously and speaks uprightly, He who despises the gain of
oppressions, Who gestures with his hands, refusing bribes, Who stops his ears
from hearing of bloodshed, And shuts his eyes from seeing evil: He will dwell
on high; His place of defense will be the fortress of rocks; Bread will
be given him, His water will be sure" (Isaiah 33:15-16)..."Assemble
yourselves and come; Draw near together, You who have escaped from the
nations" (Isaiah 45:20).
Isaiah
thus indicates this place will be a fortress of rocks for those that escape
from the nations (note: the escaping from the nations suggests that groups with
origins in CGI, such as ICG and CEM, are in error for teaching that God
intends to protect people where they are).
It
is also of interest to note that those that escape will be assembled--they are
not lone independents--this is also consistent with Zephaniah 2:1-3
Gather
yourselves together,
yes gather together, O undesirable nation, Before the decree is issued,
Or the day passes like chaff, Before the day of the LORD's fierce anger
comes upon you, Before the day of the LORD's anger comes upon you! Seek the
LORD, all you meek of the earth, who have upheld His justice. Seek
righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden in the day
of the LORD's anger.
The
Hebrew words translated as Zephaniah means “Yahweh Hides” or “Yahweh Has
Hidden” (Holy Bible: Vine’s Expository Reference Edition, p. 826). Notice that
a decree is issued, apparently by a church leader. This would seem to happen
after the gospel has been preached enough to the world as a witness (Matthew
24:14), Jewish sacrifices are stopped, and the abomination is set up (Daniel
9:27; 11:31) per Jesus' statements in Matthew 24:15-16.
It
remains my prayer that those who are Philadelphians and are scattered in groups
will soon assemble together, before it is too late.
In
addition to being gathered together, LCG's Richard Ames wrote:
What
can you do? What action must you take? God tells us through the prophet
Isaiah, “Seek the Lord, all you meek of the earth, who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden
in the day of the Lord’s anger” (Zephaniah 2:3). Yes, God will “hide” His
people during the traumatic times ahead. But He expects us to be spiritually
awake and watchful (Ames R. Armageddon and Beyond. LCG Booklet, 2007, p. 41).
Furthermore,
Zephaniah continues by suggesting that the place will not be in Gaza, at the
seacoast, nor Canaan, the land of the Philistines,
For
Gaza will be forsaken, And Ashkelon desolate; They shall drive out Ashdod at
noonday, and Ekron shall be uprooted. Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast;
The nation of the Cherethites! The word of the LORD is against you, O Canaan,
the land of the Philistines (2:4-5).
According
to the commentary at Nelson's Study Bible on these verses Gaza,
Ashkelon, Ashdod and Ekron are major cities of the Philistines and Cherethites
is simply another name for Philistines. The land mentioned is currently
primarily occupied by the Palestinians.
Since
people are to leave Judea, are not to go to Gaza, nor Canaan, nor to various places
in the north, which direction can they go? Well, they cannot go west because
the Mediterranean sea is in the way. This would seem to suggest going east,
south, or possibly southeast (southwest would take one to Gaza).
Where
is the Place?
David
wrote, "For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; In
the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon
a rock" (Psalm 27:5). This may have a dual meaning. It may be referring to
the tribulation and may also be referring to an interesting event in David's
life.
David was hiding in the woods from Saul (I Samuel 23:19), and "When Saul and his men went to seek him, they told David. Therefore he went down to the rock, and stayed in the wilderness of Maon...So David made haste to get away from Saul...so they called that place the Rock of Escape" (I Samuel 23:25,26,28). The word translated 'Rock' is Sela and the word translated as 'rock' are derivatives of the same word. Thus there was a Sela of Escape for David.
David was hiding in the woods from Saul (I Samuel 23:19), and "When Saul and his men went to seek him, they told David. Therefore he went down to the rock, and stayed in the wilderness of Maon...So David made haste to get away from Saul...so they called that place the Rock of Escape" (I Samuel 23:25,26,28). The word translated 'Rock' is Sela and the word translated as 'rock' are derivatives of the same word. Thus there was a Sela of Escape for David.
Jesus
taught, "And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the
Sabbath" (Matthew 24:20) which is consistent with Revelation 12:14 which
clearly states that it is a place to go to, it is in the wilderness, and it is
away from the presence of the serpent. The word translated as wilderness, is
translated as desert in the NIV.
This word is eremos, which Strong's defines as lonesome, waste, desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness. Thus, it is not protection in our own houses (as some have erroneously suggested), nor is it protection in a large city. It is somewhere in the wilderness.
This word is eremos, which Strong's defines as lonesome, waste, desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness. Thus, it is not protection in our own houses (as some have erroneously suggested), nor is it protection in a large city. It is somewhere in the wilderness.
Petra,
the rocky outpost in Jordan has been speculated to be the place. And where is
Petra?:
Situated
within the harsh desert, Petra’s vitality was dependent upon an intricate
hydraulic system fed by a perennial spring. This spring, the Ain Musa (Spring
of Moses), is fabled to have been one of the places where Moses struck the rock
with his staff to produce water for his wandering people after their flight
from Egypt.
Not surprisingly, the valley in which Petra is situated, the Wadi Musa (Valley of Moses) is also named after the Biblical patriarch. In addition, Moses’ brother Aaron is believed to be buried atop the Jebel Haroun (Mount of Aaron), a mountain just south of the city. The belief that Aaron was buried so near Petra is especially noteworthy because it played an important role in Petra’s rediscovery by John Burckhardt (Petra: History, Myth, and Earthquakes; Standford.edu website).
Not surprisingly, the valley in which Petra is situated, the Wadi Musa (Valley of Moses) is also named after the Biblical patriarch. In addition, Moses’ brother Aaron is believed to be buried atop the Jebel Haroun (Mount of Aaron), a mountain just south of the city. The belief that Aaron was buried so near Petra is especially noteworthy because it played an important role in Petra’s rediscovery by John Burckhardt (Petra: History, Myth, and Earthquakes; Standford.edu website).
Catholics and Petra
I
should probably mention that some have alleged that the idea of Petra and the
'place of safety' were non-biblical inventions of Loma and/or Herbert W. Armstrong. This is not the
case. The idea of the biblical cave-containing area of Sela (the area currently
known as Petra) being a place of protection during the tribulation predates the
Armstrongs mentioning it (probably by at least a century).
It
should also be understood that Catholic writers such as Irenaeus and Hippolytus also
believed that there was a physical place to flee to (see Is There A Secret Rapture for the
Church? When and Where is the Church Protected?). Also, later
Catholic writers have confirmed this. Notice the following from a 20th century
priest commenting on Revelation 12:14:
Verse
14...
She
is given "two wings" of a Great Eagle. This intimates a rescue by
airplane....
The
"Great Eagle" may send or have present a powerful airplane to bring
its citizens home...God promises that those who trust in Him shall take
"wings as eagles". The "wings" of the great eagle will enable
the woman to fly into the wilderness. This wilderness is a heathen nation...
The
great eagle therefore, as a nation, has never been Catholic. The word
"eagle" suggests that the nation may have become great by conquest.
This eagle will protect and shelter the Church during the reign of the Beast. The
place of safety for the woman...will refuse to join Antichrist and will
protect the Church during his domination of the world...
The
time is stated in three different ways, in years, months and days to make the
literal meaning unmistakably certain. Evidently it is three and a half years
actual time. The time given in verse 14 is indefinite, similar to that of
Daniel (XII. 7); But since in Daniel (XII. 11) it seems to mean 1290 days, so
here it evidently synchronizes with the 1260 days of verse 6 and the same
period in chapter eleven.
(Kramer H.B. L. The Book of Destiny. Nihil Obstat: J.S. Considine, O.P., Censor Deputatus. Imprimatur: +Joseph M. Mueller, Bishop of Sioux City, Iowa, January 26, 1956. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL),pp. 296-297)
(Kramer H.B. L. The Book of Destiny. Nihil Obstat: J.S. Considine, O.P., Censor Deputatus. Imprimatur: +Joseph M. Mueller, Bishop of Sioux City, Iowa, January 26, 1956. Reprint TAN Books, Rockford (IL),pp. 296-297)
Thus,
the idea of a physical place of safety is not a new invention of one of the
Armstrong. Additionally, even the Rheims New Testament commentary admits
that the Bible teaches that there is a place in the desert for the true church
to flee:
The
Church shall flee as to a desert in Antichrist's time, but not decay or be
unknown, no not for so short a time. (p. 556).
Furthermore,
it is my opinion that the demons themselves know about this place (recall that
even Satan quoted scripture to Christ, see Matthew 4).
Furthermore,
it is my personal opinion that the demons themselves know about this place
(recall that even Satan quoted scripture to Christ, cf. Matthew 4). Notice that
the power behind the “secret society” is expected to be hidden in a cave:
Anne
Catherine Emmerich
(October 1820): I saw the secret society undermining the great church and near
them a horrible beast…concealing itself in a cave (Emmerich AC. The Life and
Revelations of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Volume 2, p.290).
I
also believe that somehow demons influenced a mystic Catholic saint and
prophetess named Hildegard to warn that those in a place with caves worked for
the devil and were an advanced group that support the Antichrist. Notice what
she wrote in the 12th century:
And
fly from those who linger in caves and are cloistered supporters of the Devil.
Woe to them, woe to them who remain thus! They are the Devil's very viscera,
and the advance guard of the son of perdition.
Therefore,
O you My beloved children, avoid them with all devotion and with all the
strength of your souls and bodies. For the ancient serpent feeds and clothes
them by his arts, and they worship him as God and trust in his false
deceptions...Because they are afraid of My people, they do not openly resist
these institutions of Mine, but in their hearts and their deeds they hold them
as nothing.
By devilish illusion, they pretend to have sanctity; but they are deceived by the Devil, for if he were to show himself to them openly they would understand him and flee him. By his arts he shows them things he pretends are good and holy, and thus deludes them. O woe to those who persevere in this death!
By devilish illusion, they pretend to have sanctity; but they are deceived by the Devil, for if he were to show himself to them openly they would understand him and flee him. By his arts he shows them things he pretends are good and holy, and thus deludes them. O woe to those who persevere in this death!
But
because the Devil knows he has only a short time for his error, he is not
hastening to perfect infidelity in his members; you, you evil deceivers, who
labor to subvert the Catholic faith. (Hildegard of Bingen. Scivias. Paulist
Press, Mahwah (NJ), pp. 301-302).
Since
I believe that the mystic was demonically-influenced, she is actually warning
against supporting the true Christians who will be protected who she is
claiming are the "supporters of the Devil" (probably because they
will oppose the Catholic Church).
Since she calls them the advanced guard "of the son of perdition", she seems to be referring to a group of people who will be protected in caves just before Christ returns (I stated that because certain Catholic prophecies seem to refer to the returning Christ as the “antichrist”, who is also sometimes referred to as “the son of perdition”—for more on this, please read the article Do Certain Catholic Prophecies About Antichrist Warn Against Jesus?).
Since she calls them the advanced guard "of the son of perdition", she seems to be referring to a group of people who will be protected in caves just before Christ returns (I stated that because certain Catholic prophecies seem to refer to the returning Christ as the “antichrist”, who is also sometimes referred to as “the son of perdition”—for more on this, please read the article Do Certain Catholic Prophecies About Antichrist Warn Against Jesus?).
Hence,
I believe that the above demonically-inspired vision will be used to try to
persuade people to be against those that are in caves (Jeremiah 48:28), who
seem religious (Revelation 14:12), and are apparently miraculously fed (Isaiah
33:15-16). But, the above vision, does indicate that even the demons have known
about a place of protection where some people will be miraculously fed, for
quite some time.
It
is interesting to note that the Bible might suggest that perhaps others will
ignore Hildegard's warnings as it suggests that some will join God's outcasts:
8
The Lord GOD, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, "Yet I will gather to him Others besides those who are gathered to him." (Isaiah 56:8).
More from Catholic (or Catholic
Influenced) Sources
Interestingly,
I should perhaps add that even a commentator’s note in the Rheims New
Testament agrees with my position that the Church goes to a wilderness
location:
The
Church shall flee as to a desert in Antichrist's time, but not decay or be
unknown, no not for so short a time. (Rheims New Testament, p. 556)
The
Chilam Balam (meaning "oracular priest" "jaguar"), set
of writings that seem to combine Mayan and Spanish beliefs that came from the
late 15th/early 16th century with apparent Catholic influence, makes the
following statements:
Son,
where is the cenote 566? All are drenched <with> its
water 567.
There is no gravel on its bottom; a bow is inserted over its entrance 568. <It is> the
church.
566 Evidently a reference to a cave type
of cenote...
567 Probably...the water of baptism is meant...
568 A reference to the arched doorway of the church (José Hoíl J, Roys R. The Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel. Roys Publisher, 1933. Reprint Forgotten Books, 1967, pp. 80, 233).
567 Probably...the water of baptism is meant...
568 A reference to the arched doorway of the church (José Hoíl J, Roys R. The Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel. Roys Publisher, 1933. Reprint Forgotten Books, 1967, pp. 80, 233).
Thus,
the idea that the church would possibly be in a desert and/or cave area has
existed for some time. Petra, by the way, seems to have something that could
possibly be described as a somewhat arched doorway.
Perhaps
I should also add here that some of the Mayans seem to believe that in the time
of a false Archbishop (possibly a refernce to the final Antichrist) that those who
consider themselves faithful in Central America (and probably South America)
should hide in the forest (this would be those who were not with the main faithful
portion of the church which would have gone to the area of rocky caves):
There
is no reason or necessity for you to submit to the Archbishop. When he comes,
you go and hide yourselves in the forest. If you surrender yourselves, you
shall follow Christ, when he shall come (José Hoíl J, Roys R. The Book of
Chilam Balam of Chumayel , p. 77).
Early
Catholic writers such as Irenaeus in the 2nd century) (Irenaeus. Adversus
haereses, Book V, Chapter 34, Verse 3. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers,
Volume 1. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition,
1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K. Knight) and Hippolytus in the 3rd
century (Hippolytus. On Christ and Antichrist, Chapter 61) also believed this,
hence Hildegard is once again not even faithful to Catholic positions on
prophetic matters.
Furthermore,
notice what a late second century Catholic bishop and saint named Victorinus
wrote:
But
the woman fled into the wilderness, and there were given to her two great
eagle's wings…to that…church…let them go to that place which they have ready,
and let them be supported there for three years and six months from the
presence of the devil. (Victorinus of Petau. Commentary on the Apocalpyse.
Ante-Nicene Christian library: translations of the writings of the Fathers down
to A.D. 325. Edited by Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson. T. and T. Clark,
1870. Original from Harvard University. Digitized Nov 16, 2006, p. 423)
Additionally,
notice what Cyril of Jerusalem (who is considered a saint by the Catholics and
the Orthodox) taught in the
fourth century:
Antichrist
shall reign for three years and a half only. We speak not from apocryphal
books, but from Daniel ; for he says, And they shall be given into his hand
until a time and times and half a time . A time is the one year in which
his coming shall for a while have increase; and the times are the
remaining two years of iniquity , making up the sum of the three years; and the
half a time is the six months.
And again in another place Daniel says the same thing, And he sware by Him that lives for ever that it shall be for a time , and times, and half a time. And some peradventure have referred what follows also to this; namely , a thousand two hundred and ninety days ; and this, Blessed is he that endures and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days . For this cause we must hide ourselves and flee (Cyril of Jerusalem. Catechetical Lecture 15.
And again in another place Daniel says the same thing, And he sware by Him that lives for ever that it shall be for a time , and times, and half a time. And some peradventure have referred what follows also to this; namely , a thousand two hundred and ninety days ; and this, Blessed is he that endures and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days . For this cause we must hide ourselves and flee (Cyril of Jerusalem. Catechetical Lecture 15.
Thus,
the idea of true Christians fleeing, being supported, and being away from the
devil for 3 ½ years is consistent with both biblical and certain Catholic
teachings. No one should rely on Hildegard’s false admonition.
Protestants and Petra
It
may also be of interest to note that there are even some outside the COGs which
believe in the concept of Petra as a place of protection. Some Protestants feel
that Petra is the place that Jewish Christians who become converted during the
tribulation will be protected in.
Protestants,
however, tend to have a problem reconciling the fact that the Book of
Revelation refers to believers as those "who keep the commandments of God
and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Revelation 12:17) and "the
saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of
Jesus" (Revelation 14:12) with the fact that most Protestants believe that
the ten commandments are done away--hence referring to those protected as
"Jewish Christians", as opposed to recognizing that all real
Christians keep the ten commandments, is how I have heard some try to
rationalize that view.
Protestant
scholar Dr. Walvoord mentioned:
(Matthew
24:15-22), some believe that there will be a specific place in the desert that
Israel can flee... (Walvoord JF. The Prophecy Knowledge Handbook. Victor Books,
Wheaton (IL), 1990, p. 579).
Some
of the more recent books in the "Left Behind' series mention some
'believers' congregating in Petra at the end-time.
Actually,
the idea that Christians who seem to be Jewish (because they keep the
seventh-day Sabbath) being protected in Petra is widely-held in Protestant
circles that accept the idea of the Great Tribulation and the rapture.
Protestant
scholars Tim LaHaye and Ed Hindson wrote:
…the
last half of the Tribulation…Many commentators suggest the Jews will flee to
the ancient mountain fortress of Petra which is in the wilderness of
Jordan…Satan’s final “war” will fall upon the believing Jews, the rest of her
children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus”
(Revelation 12:17) (LaHaye T, Hindson E. The Popular Bible Prophecy Commentary.
Harvest House, Eugene (OR), 2006, pp. 523-524).
Notice
what some others have written:
Those
Jews in Israel who have come to know Yeshua personally during the first half of
the tribulation will be responsive and it is to this believing remnant
that Jesus makes His appeal.
Ray Stedman remarks on this event,
Ray Stedman remarks on this event,
Who
are they who must flee so urgently when the last days begin? Who dare not hesitate
long enough even to go back into the house to pick up a wrap, but must
immediately head for the hills? There is no need to wonder, for the Lord says
plainly, "those who are in Judea" Now Judea is a geographical part of
the land of Israel, ancient Palestine. It comprises the hill country
surrounding the city of Jerusalem and includes the city as well. It is to the
residents of Jerusalem and Judea that this warning is addressed.
Furthermore, the Lord's mention of the Sabbath establishes the fact that these residents of Judea are Jews. He urges them to pray that their flight will not be in the winter, with its distress of cold, or on the Sabbath, with its travel limitations, for Jews are allowed to travel only a short distance on a Sabbath day. Later in this passage these Jews are called "the elect" ("for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened"), and this makes clear they are believing Jews...
Furthermore, the Lord's mention of the Sabbath establishes the fact that these residents of Judea are Jews. He urges them to pray that their flight will not be in the winter, with its distress of cold, or on the Sabbath, with its travel limitations, for Jews are allowed to travel only a short distance on a Sabbath day. Later in this passage these Jews are called "the elect" ("for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened"), and this makes clear they are believing Jews...
But
here the Sabbath distinctly will be a restricting factor in the flight of these
people. Here then will be a class of people who cannot be identified with the
present day church They will be Jewish believers in Christ who will be
converted after the removal of the church and before the time of the Great
Tribulation.
...Most
Bible scholars believe this godly remnant will find refuge in the ancient
rock-hewn cliff city of Petra, and in the surrounding region in the land of
that once belonged to the descendants of Esau, that is Edom (Southern Jordan).
The remnant will survive there, protected by God, for three and a half years
(Graff, Ron and Dolphin, Lambert. Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will Be Done...,
Chapter 11. Peninsula Bible Church, Palo Alto (CA), 1998).
It
should be pointed out that Ray Stedman is referring to Jesus' statement in
Matthew 24:20 about the Sabbath. However, contrary to most Protestant
teachings, Jesus did not state that this applied only to the Jews. In that
verse, Jesus clearly was telling all believers to pray that their flight
(possibly to Petra) not occur on the Sabbath or the winter. But it is true that
those being protected keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of
Jesus Christ as those that are Christians, but are not protected, also do
(Revelation 12:17).
The
truth is that true Christians have always kept the Sabbath, thus Protestant
exegesis of these passages has been tainted by their refusing to follow the
practices of the early Christians in regards to the Sabbath and ten
commandments. Basically these Protestant writers seem to think that only Jews
could keep God’s commandments while at the same time believing in Jesus.
That is bizarre, because if these are physical Jews and they do that, then this would mean that the two witnesses would be preaching that the commandments still need to be kept—something that most Protestant scholars disagree with. The truth is that those being protected, possibly in or near Petra, will be Philadelphia Church era Church of God Christians.
That is bizarre, because if these are physical Jews and they do that, then this would mean that the two witnesses would be preaching that the commandments still need to be kept—something that most Protestant scholars disagree with. The truth is that those being protected, possibly in or near Petra, will be Philadelphia Church era Church of God Christians.
And
although he was somewhat discussing the idea of the millennium, Irenaeus used an interesting
choice of words when he wrote the following:
Now,
that the promises were not announced to the prophets and the fathers alone, but
to the Churches united to these from the nations, whom also the Spirit terms
"the islands" (both because they are established in the midst of
turbulence, suffer the storm of blasphemies, exist as a harbour of safety to
those in peril, and are the refuge of those who love the height [of heaven],
and strive to avoid Bythus, that is, the depth of error) (Irenaeus. Adversus haereses, Book V, Chapter 34, Verse 3.
Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1. Edited by Alexander Roberts &
James Donaldson. American Edition, 1885. Online Edition Copyright © 2004 by K.
Knight).
Thus,
Irenaeus is endorsing the concept that the writings in the Old Testament about
refuge and safety apply to Christians who avoid the depth of error.
And,
the Catholic theologian Hippolytus, inthe third century wrote:
And
the dragon, he says, saw and persecuted the woman which brought forth the man-child
. And to the woman were given two wings of the great eagle, that she might fly
into the wilderness, where she is nourished for a time , and times, and half a
time , from the face of the serpent.
That refers to the one thousand two hundred and threescore days (the half of the week) during which the tyrant is to reign and persecute the Church, which flees from city to city, and seeks conceal-meat in the wilderness among the mountains, possessed of no other defence than the two wings of the great eagle... (Hippolytus. On Christ and Antichrist, Chapter 61).
That refers to the one thousand two hundred and threescore days (the half of the week) during which the tyrant is to reign and persecute the Church, which flees from city to city, and seeks conceal-meat in the wilderness among the mountains, possessed of no other defence than the two wings of the great eagle... (Hippolytus. On Christ and Antichrist, Chapter 61).
Hence,
he understood that the Church (and not just some later converted Jews) would
end up in the wilderness near mountains.
Furthermore
Roman Catholic Bishop and the Inquisitor Bernard Guidonis noted about some he
called heretics:
Again,
they say that both in the time of persecution by Antichrist and in that of the
aforesaid war carnal Christians will be so afflicted that, despairing, they
will say, "If Christ were God, he would not permit Christians to suffer so
much and such intense evil." Thus despairing, they will apostatize from
the faith and die. But God will hide the elect spiritual individuals so that
they cannot be found by Antichrist and his ministers.
Then the church will be reduced to the same size as the primitive church when it was first founded (BERNARD GUI: INQUISITOR'S MANUAL, Chapter 5. Translated by David Burr, History Department, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA.
Then the church will be reduced to the same size as the primitive church when it was first founded (BERNARD GUI: INQUISITOR'S MANUAL, Chapter 5. Translated by David Burr, History Department, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA.
Hence,
it has long been understood that a small part of the true Church of God would
be hidden by God, but that another part would not be.
Furthermore,
a Catholic mystic known as the "Blessed Elizabeth Canori-Mora"
(early 19th century) proclaimed that after certain events, "the flock of
Jesus" would be "gathered" "in a place of safety"(G.
THE CHRISTIAN TRUMPET, OR, Previsions and Predictions about Impending General
Calamities, The Universal Triumph of the Church, The Coming of Antichrist, The
Last Judgment, and The End of the World. Compiled by PELLEGRINO [Gaudentius
Rossi], A Missionary Priest with Superior's permission. Boston, THOS. B.
NOONAND & CO., 1873, p.127).
The
idea of a place of safety has been discussed by many for centuries.
Herbert
W. Armstrong and Petra
Although
it is not certain that Petra will be the place, Herbert Armstrong thought it
may be as he wrote,
Petra
may very well be the site for God's protection of HIS PEOPLE---those who are
counted WORTHY TO ESCAPE the terrifying GREAT TRIBULATION that is soon to
strike an unsuspecting Israel! PETRA, an ancient Arab stronghold deep in the
rugged mountains, is accessible only by traveling through narrow, twisting
gorges on horseback! (Letter, April 15, 1956).
We
thought of that, when we were in Petra---and how undoubtedly that is the very
place where WE shall spend from 3 to 7 years during the Great Tribulation and
possibly also the terrible Day of the Lord, soon to come---IF we are close to
God instead of this pleasure-man world--- if we are praying always, and
WATCHING, and accounted worthy to escape the things that are coming on the
earth! (Letter, May 8, 1956).
Apparently
many are carelessly supposing they are now SURE of being protected through the
Great Tribulation (now ALMOST READY TO STRIKE!). Whether it will be Petra or
another place, many feel carelessly secure, and, after that, entering God's
Kingdom with ETERNAL LIFE! But YOU DON'T HAVE IT "MADE."
You are still being TRIED -- to determine whether you shall have this protection -- whether you shall enter the Kingdom of God! It is those who are LED BY the Spirit of God -- NOT those who are led by desire for more and more physical and material things!...SO, hundreds of you are SLACKING OFF in your RESPONSIBILITIES in GOD'S WORK!...SO, hundreds of you are SLACKING OFF in your RESPONSIBILITIES in GOD'S WORK! (Letter, September 1, 1968).
You are still being TRIED -- to determine whether you shall have this protection -- whether you shall enter the Kingdom of God! It is those who are LED BY the Spirit of God -- NOT those who are led by desire for more and more physical and material things!...SO, hundreds of you are SLACKING OFF in your RESPONSIBILITIES in GOD'S WORK!...SO, hundreds of you are SLACKING OFF in your RESPONSIBILITIES in GOD'S WORK! (Letter, September 1, 1968).
Thus,
Herbert Armstrong felt that those who slacked off in their responsibilities in
doing God's work, would probably not go.
He
further wrote, "I hope to arrange for the use of Petra as a possible
refuge or place of safety during the Great Tribulation, when I see King
Hussein." (Letter February 25, 1982).
After
this writing apparently Mr. Armstrong felt that many misconstrued this writing
to indicate that it was about time to go, so he then wrote,
Incidentally,
I know many of you seem to have your hearts set on going very soon to Petra as
"the place of safety" during the soon-coming Great Tribulation. Well,
GET YOUR MINDS OFF PETRA. Brethren, I HAVE NEVER said that Petra definitely is
the place of protection where God will take us. I HOPE IT IS NOT! One reason it
could be the place is that it is a place NOBODY ELSE WOULD WANT TO GO.
It would be the most UNpleasant, UNcomfortable, miserable place you could go! There is nothing to be desired there. But, just in case, God HAS miraculously given me very gracious favor in the eyes of King Hussein and also his brother, the Crown Prince. They are very friendly to me personally (Letter, July 16, 1982).
It would be the most UNpleasant, UNcomfortable, miserable place you could go! There is nothing to be desired there. But, just in case, God HAS miraculously given me very gracious favor in the eyes of King Hussein and also his brother, the Crown Prince. They are very friendly to me personally (Letter, July 16, 1982).
Petra
and Other Scriptures
The
late John Ogwyn wrote,
In three specific references, the Bible seems to associate Petra
with God's end-time place of protection for His people, but these scriptures
are all somewhat vague and can be understood in more than one way. If these
verses do not refer to Petra, though, it would seem that God really has not
given us any indication of the location where He will nourish His people during
the final three-and-a half year period....(Isaiah 42:11-13)...Isaiah 33...verse
10...(v.14)...(vv.14-16)...Another reference is Isaiah 16.
Here God tells the Moabites, who rule the area of Sela or Petra (v.1), to shield His outcasts...While the details of how and where God will protect His people are fascinating, we must all keep in mind that in the ultimate sense our protection does not come from any place--it come from God (Ogwyn, John. Is There a Real Place of Safety? Living Church News. July-August 2001; pp.5-6).
Here God tells the Moabites, who rule the area of Sela or Petra (v.1), to shield His outcasts...While the details of how and where God will protect His people are fascinating, we must all keep in mind that in the ultimate sense our protection does not come from any place--it come from God (Ogwyn, John. Is There a Real Place of Safety? Living Church News. July-August 2001; pp.5-6).
Let's
fully quote Isaiah 16:1-4,
Send
the lamb to the ruler of the land, from Sela to the wilderness, to the mount of
the daughter of Zion. For it shall be as a wandering bird thrown out of the
nest; So shall the daughters of Moab at the fords of the Arnon. Take counsel,
execute judgment; Make your shadow like the night in the middle of the day;
Hide the outcasts, Do not betray him who escapes. Let my outcasts dwell with
you, O Moab; Be a shelter to them from the face of the spoiler.
From
these verses, we learn that Moab hides the outcasts, those who escape--this
could be God's people as Jesus told them "pray always that you may be
counted worthy to escape" (Luke 21:36).
We
have seen that this place has something to do with Moab, Sela, and the
wilderness. We know that some of the area that once was Moab is modern Jordan
(while there also used to be Edomites there, we in the COGs tend to feel they
moved much further north). We also know that Sela means rock. It is called
Petra in Greek, which also means rock. There is a deserted town in Jordan named
Petra, which is the place called Sela in Isaiah. Petra is not a city itself,
and is in a lonesome, rocky, desert wilderness that contains caves. It is
possible that some other place on Earth also meets these criteria, but thus far
Petra appears to be the leading candidate.
The
scriptures that precede Isaiah 16 may also provide a clue. Notice:
They
will carry away to the Brook of the Willows. For the cry has gone all around
the borders of Moab, Its wailing to Eglaim And its wailing to Beer Elim. For
the waters of Dimon will be full of blood; Because I will bring more upon
Dimon, Lions upon him who escapes from Moab, And on the remnant of the land
(Isaiah 15:7-9).
It
is possible that the term "Brook (Hebrew nachal which indicates a
stream, flood, or similar) of Willows" (Hebrew arab') may be a
reference to the area near Petra called Wadi al-Arabah (which some claim means
something like "valley of the desert" or perhaps "drainage area
of willows"). Wadi al-Arabah is also called Wadi al Jayb.
As
Wadi al-Arabah is about 180 kilometers long, from the southern shore of the
Dead Sea to Al Aqabah in the south (hence it is in Jordan, though some of it may
be in Israeli territory), it runs past Petra to the west and it is somewhat
close enough to Petra to "carry away to ".
A
Wadi is supposed to be some type of drainage area (or simply a low area
or valley that drains when flooded).
A
small one closest to Petra seems to be Wadi Musa ("valley of
Moses")--which is currently not wet--but on a map it looks like it would
drain into Wadi al-Arabah if wet enough. But it is possible that since the name
Wadi implied a wet area when it was given, that this "Brook of the
Willows" includes the area of Petra. But this is uncertain--but again
these verses in Isaiah 15, like those in Isaiah 16 do also indicate that
perhaps some area in Jordan is involved.
Interestingly,
Jeremiah wrote,
You
who dwell in Moab, Leave the cities and dwell in the rock, And be like the dove
which makes her nest in the sides of the cave's mouth (Jeremiah 48:28).
For
thus says the LORD: "Behold, one shall fly like an eagle, And spread his wings
over Moab..." (Jeremiah 48:40).
It
should also be noted that Petra is southeast of Jerusalem, which, as we saw
earlier, is a possible direction for the place to be. Other than the aspect of
caves (which does not mention the amount of caves), it should be noted, that
many other areas in Jordan also are in the right direction and fit the
description of the place--so it is possible that the Church may flee into
Jordan and not stay in Petra, but somewhere else in Jordan.
R.C.
Meredith of the Living Church of God publicly taught:
Petra
may be the place of safety (Meredith RC. Servant Leadership. Sermon, April 12,
2008).
...the
place of safety...Petra...it might be the place (Meredith RC. Prophecy
Overview. Sermon, July 19, 2008).
The
place of safety, in Petra...No we don't say it has to be Petra...Mr. Waterhouse
called Petra "the place of final training" (Meredith RC. The Destiny
of America and Britain. Sermon, July 24, 2010).
The
idea that those going to the place will undergo final training is one that we of
the Philadelphia remnant of the Church of God embrace. We do not believe that
we are simply going to save our physical selves, but to be trained so that we
can be more effective servants of God.
It
may be of interest to note that although Moab (somewhat associated with modern
Jordan) is likely to somewhat support the upcoming King of the South (Daniel 11:40), Moab
ends up escaping the punishment by the final King of the North (Daniel
11:40-43)--and possibly God allows this escape because the place of protection
may be in their land (though the King of the North would likely believe
that there are other reasons, including political ones).
Some
Other Scriptures Which Seem to Discuss The Place
There
is another passage of scripture that may be alluding to a Jordanian location
for the place, which states,
If
you have run with footmen, and they have wearied you, then how can you contend
with horses? And if in the land of peace, in which you trusted, they have
wearied you, then how will you do in the floodplain of Jordan? For even you
brothers, the house of your father, even they have dealt treacherously with
you; Yes they have called a multitude after you. Do not believe them, even
though they speak smooth words to you" (Jeremiah 12:5-6).
The
implication to God's people is if you are having a difficult time living in a
relatively peaceful land, what will happen to you when you are being pursued by
'a multitude' in the 'floodplain of Jordan'? Remember, the serpent spews out a
flood to try to destroy those who flee to the wilderness (Revelation 12:14-15).
Thus it is possible that this is why Jeremiah is warning God's people about how
they will do in the 'floodplain of Jordan' (most any map suggests this
floodplain looks like it is east of Jerusalem, God's people would probably need
to cross it if they arrive in Jerusalem and head towards Petra).
Another
portion in Zephaniah, which occurs slightly after it talks about the meek of
the earth being hidden (2:3), also seems to provide confirmation to a Jordanian
location:
I
have heard the reproach of Moab, And the insults of the people of Ammon, With
which they have reproached My people, And made arrogant threats against their
borders. Therefore, as I live," Says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel,
"Surely Moab shall be like Sodom, And the people of Ammon like Gomorrah--
Overrun with weeds and saltpits, And a perpetual desolation; The residue of My
people shall plunder them, And the remnant of My people shall possess
them." This they shall have for their pride, Because they have
reproached and made arrogant threats Against the people of the LORD of hosts"
(Zephaniah 2:8-10).
Right
after recording that God told Moab to shelter His outcasts (Isaiah 16:4),
Moab's pride (vs. 6) and the fact that Moab would be stricken (vs. 7) are
mentioned. These verses appear supportive of the concept that the place is
somewhere in Jordan (like Petra) and that all in Moab (modern Jordan) will not
like God's people being there.
This
will not be an easy place to live in (though better than the alternative of
being turned over to the one who shall "destroy the mighty and also the
holy people", Daniel 8:24):
Come,
my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself,
as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. For behold, the
Lord comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their
iniquity (Isaiah 26:20-21).
Therefore
thus says the Lord God: 'Behold, My servants shall eat, But you shall be
hungry; Behold, My servants shall drink, But you shall be Thirsty; Behold, My
servants shall rejoice, But you shall be ashamed; Behold, My servants shall
sing for joy of heart, But you shall cry for sorrow of heart, And wail for
grief of spirit (Isaiah 65:13-14).
So in spite of the
hardships at this place, God's servants shall rejoice at this place.
There
Could Be A City Location
It
is possible there could be a city near the location, or eventually as the
location:
Let
the redeemed of the LORD say so, Whom He has redeemed from the hand of the
enemy, And gathered out of the lands, From the east and from the west, From the
north and from the south. They wandered in the wilderness in a desolate way;
They found no city to dwell in. Hungry and thirsty, Their soul fainted in them.
Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble, And He delivered them out of
their distresses. And He led them forth by the right way, That they might go to
a city for a dwelling place (Psalm 107:2-7 ).
These
verses may be saying that after being in the wilderness, that possibly God's
redeemed may end up dwelling in a city. There is a town near Petra, called
Wadi-Musa. Wadi-Musa still is in the wilderness. In biblical times, a town of
that size would have been considered a city. Thus it may possibly be a place
that Philadelpians will dwell for a short time as for a while they will
apparently need to be in caves in Moab (Jeremiah 48:28).
One
reason that a small city might be the eventual location is because many
mountainous areas will destroyed by a great earthquake that occurs around the
end of the tribulation:
And
they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. Then the
seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of
the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, "It is done!" And
there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great
earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men
were on the earth.
Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found (Revelation 16:16-20).
Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found (Revelation 16:16-20).
Therefore
it is possible that God will have His protected people flee from Petra when
they learn that the armies have gathered together in "the place called in
Hebrew, Armageddon". And that they will go to a small city, or perhaps in
tents outside some small city.
Do
the Work
Now,
let's look at what God's people will be doing after being in this place:
I
will set a sign among them; and those among them who escape I will send to the
nations: to Tarshish and Pul and Lud, who draw the bow, and Tubal and Javan, to
the coastlands afar off who have not heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they
shall declare My glory among the Gentiles (Isaiah 66:19).
Doesn't
this sound like those that go to this place will preach the Gospel once they
leave it? Is it not then logical that those that were allowed to escape and go
to this place were those that placed their top emphasis on getting the Gospel
out prior to escaping?
It
thus seems that perhaps the reason that the Philadelphians are protected is
because they are currently doing the work, will do a type of work in the place
of safety (even a Catholic prophecy calls those in the place "the
advanced guard"--which essentially seems to imply that they will be
someone getting out the message that Jesus will return to establish His millennial kingdom) , and will be used
of God to do another proclamation work after the place of safety (yes, that
would be after I Thessalonians 4:16).
Watch,
Pray, and Do the Work
Jesus
said, "Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is
coming...Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so
doing" (Matthew 24:42,46). He also said, "Take heed, watch and pray;
for you do not know when the time is" (Mark 13:33).
Also,
look at what we are warned in the book of Ezekiel (the book must be warning
people who at least have read the Bible),
Son
of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent unfaithfulness, I will
stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off its supply of bread, send famine
on it, and cut off man and beast from it. Though these three men, Noah, Daniel,
and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,
says the LORD God...they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they
would be delivered, and the land would be desolate (Ezekiel 14:13-14,16).
Thus
depending on others will not save you. That is why Paul says in Philippians,
"work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (2:12). The
remnant of the Philadlephia remnant of the Church of God believes the '18
restored truths' and places their priority on publicly proclaiming the Gospel
of the Kingdom, it seems that its members make up the bulk of the remnant of
the Philadelphia era of the Church (for more information, please read What is a True Philadelphian?).
However, just being in any Philadelphia-leaning COG group is not a ticket to the place of safety. However remember that God's people are to be gathered together "Before the decree is issued...Before the day of the LORD's fierce anger" (Zephaniah 2:1-2), thus the Church will probably be the instrument that issues the decree to flee!
However, just being in any Philadelphia-leaning COG group is not a ticket to the place of safety. However remember that God's people are to be gathered together "Before the decree is issued...Before the day of the LORD's fierce anger" (Zephaniah 2:1-2), thus the Church will probably be the instrument that issues the decree to flee!
We
are living during the Laodicean era of God's Church. That means that of all the
truly converted Christians most are Laodicean (which is why only the remnant of
the Philadelphia era would be around today). And the Laodiceans are not only
confined to groups other than Living. That means that you could be one. I could
be one. Any of us could be Laodicean. And if so, we need to make some big
changes. Otherwise, God will resort to drastic measures--putting us through the
worst trial in human history.
So
what are we now to do, individually, to be delivered and to avoid the
consequences of the Great Tribulation? We are to pray that we will be accounted
worthy (Matthew 24:20); to ask God to help us repent now so we won't need to be
severely chasten during the Tribulation later.
We need to pray that our flight will not be on the Sabbath or in the winter (Luke 21:36). We need to watch. Watch world events (Matthew 24:20, Mark 13:33) and our own lives (Luke 21:36). And take heed that no one deceives us! (Matthew 24:4)--in today's "attend the COG of your choice" environment being at least partially deceived is easier than before (here is an article titled Unity: Which Church of God for You?).
We need to pray that our flight will not be on the Sabbath or in the winter (Luke 21:36). We need to watch. Watch world events (Matthew 24:20, Mark 13:33) and our own lives (Luke 21:36). And take heed that no one deceives us! (Matthew 24:4)--in today's "attend the COG of your choice" environment being at least partially deceived is easier than before (here is an article titled Unity: Which Church of God for You?).
R.C.
Meredith of the Living Church of God publicly has taught:
The
Laodiceans...will not be taken to the place of safety...Don't be a
Laodicean...Put your heart in your prayers...Put your heart in the work of God
(Meredith RC. Prophecy Overview. Sermon, July 19, 2008).
The
Philadelphians have God's " command to persevere" (Rev 3:10) and are
told to “hold fast to what you have, that no man may take your crown” (v.11).
Perhaps this is a warning not to be swayed by doctrinal changes contrary to our
core, fundamental beliefs, which are instituted by men, irrespective of their
position or education. We are told to be “so doing” when Jesus returns (Matthew
24:46). We need to have works of which God approves (Revelation 3:8). We must
be hot--not lukewarm (v.15).
What
About other COG Groups?
There
are heretical leaders who have misled true Christians what they are to hold
fast to. I feel that most of the true COG leaders that are not basically
supporting the two criteria that I believe the Bible, as well as clearly
Herbert W. Armstrong, set for the Philadelphia portion of the Church are men whose
actions are contributing to the taking of crowns of those that could be
Philadelphian.
Many also contribute to diluting the efforts to get the gospel to the world as a witness. And that is part of the reason why the COGwriter website has articles on two dozen Church of God of the scores of such groups (those articles can be found at the COGwriter home page).
Many also contribute to diluting the efforts to get the gospel to the world as a witness. And that is part of the reason why the COGwriter website has articles on two dozen Church of God of the scores of such groups (those articles can be found at the COGwriter home page).
The
Book of Revelation shows that there
will be parts of four Churches of God at the time of the end (Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea) and I believe that
those that are actually part of the Church of God, but are not actually
Philadelphian are almost all in the Thyatira, Sardis, and/or Laodicea churches.
Notice
what happens to many those that follow them in the end:
Thyatira...I
will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He
who searches the minds and hearts (Revelation 2:18,23).
Sardis...Therefore
if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know
what hour I will come upon you (Revelation 3:1,3).
Laodiceans...
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent
(Revelation 3:14,19).
Yet
notice that there is a difference for the Philadelphians who were not deceived
into following false or heretical teachings:
Philadelphia...Because
you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of
trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the
earth (Revelation 3:7,10).
While
it is possible that some in the Thyatira, Sardis, and/or Laodicea churches may repent,
only the Philadelphians are promised protection from the great tribulation,
"the hour of trial".
And
that is another reason that understanding church eras is important.
(The
main reason, however, is that seven times related to the seven Churches of
Revelation 2 & 3, Jesus states, "He who has an ear, let him hear what
the Spirit says to the churches" Revelation 2:7,11,17,29;3:6,13,22. More
on Church eras can be found in the article The Churches of Revelation 2 & 3.)
Who Goes to a Place of Protection?
Herbert
W. Armstrong taught that those in the Body of Christ who were part of doing the
work were going to be protected. He wrote the following,
Those
in the true Body of Christ shall be protected until this tribulation will be
over (Rev. 3:10-11)--applying to those faithful in God's Work now going to the
world. Rev 12:14; U.S.A. 26:20. But YOU must make your own decision -- and to
neglect doing so is to have made the wrong decision! God isn't kidding! This is
for real!...The decision is now yours! (Armstrong, Herbert W. The United States
and British Commonwealth in Prophecy. 1975; p:60).
And
of course he was right--the decision is yours. We all need to heed God's
warning to the Laodiceans--"He who has an ear, let him hear what the
Spirit says to the churches" (Revelation 3:22).
Notice
what the 1973 WCG booklet The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse taught:
To
these elect, Christ said, “FEAR NOT, little flock; for it is your fathers good
pleasure to give you the kingdom” (Luke 12:32). He promised that this elect
would always be on earth. The end-time remnant of that group would have special
strength to preach Christ’s Gospel to all the world for a witness (Matt.
24:14).
You
need to find out where that Work is being carried on! Why? Because it is only
those having a part in that Work who have any guarantee of safety.
Others may survive after years of ordeal and pain, but the path of the elect is
safe and sure.
They
are those called and chosen, who have truly repented of their own carnal ways,
and have accepted the holy ways of God…
To
this end-time “elect” doing God’s Work, Jesus says, “I know your works” behold
I set before thee an open door” (Rev. 3:8). This door refers to a way
being opened to preach the Gospel (II Cor. 2:12). Today, that way is
through the mass media of radio, television, the printing press, and personal
evangelism.
“And…no
man can shut it: for thou hast [only] a little strength, and hast kept my word,
and hast not denied my name” (Rev. 3:8). The very elect would NEVER become
corrupted by false doctrines, or be muzzled by boards of men—they would never
deny Christ’s name or His doctrines!
As
a reward for this faithfulness, Jesus gave this exhilarating good news to those
faithful ones who put the Work of God far above their own personal desires. He
said, “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee
from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them
that dwell upon the earth” (Rev 3:10)...
The
elect are the end-time remnant of the Church of God and Work of God on the
earth…
Believe
it or not, that group exists! The “elect” are on the earth at this moment,
doing God’s work. A way of escape is available and attainable to YOU!
And
in the 21st century, that would be the real remnant of the Philadelphia portion
of the Church of God.
Notice
what the August 1959 edition of Herbert Armstrong's Good News magazine
taught,
God
will set before us an open door and no man can shut it. God can shut it, and He
will when the work is finished and the Philadelphia Church has gone to the
place of safety...Philadelphia has little strength to do this great work which
God has given it to do...It is the Church of Laodicea who had no vital part in
the work of God today even though they live today and are part of the
generation which will see Christ return (What is the Laodicean Church? Good
News, August 1959, p.12).
I
believe that the Bible clearly teaches that the remnant of the Philadelphia era of the Church will go to the place
of safety.
My
position is that Petra may be the place, but if it (or some similar area in
Jordan) is not the place, then the Bible is simply not specific enough to any
other particular location for us to know. Those who assert that Petra is not
the place (or near the place), seem, to me at least, to be asserting a
questionable position at best.
However,
more important than where the place is, is being accounted worthy to be there.
Notice what Jesus taught:
Watch
therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these
things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man (Luke 21:36).
Only
those supporting the true Philadelphia-work of the Church of God and who are
truly Philadelphians will be protected in that place. we all need to pray
always and "grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ" (2 Peter 3:18) so that we may be accounted worthy to be there.
Ref:
B.
Thiel, Ph.D. There is a Place of Safety for the Philadelphians. Why it May Be
Petra. www.cogwriter.com 2001,2002,2004, 2006/2007/2008/2009/2010/2011/2012
0807
Articles
of Further Interest May Include:
Is There A Secret
Rapture for the Church? Will Jesus' return be a secret? What does the Bible really
teach?
The Churches of Revelation 2 & 3 from 31 A.D. to present
The Ephesus Church Era predominant from 31 A.D. to circa 135 A.D.
The Smyrna Church Era predominant circa 135 A.D. to circa 450 A.D.
The Pergamos Church Era predominant circa 450 A.D. to circa 1050 A.D.
The Thyatira Church Era predominant circa 1050 A.D. to circa 1585 A.D.
The Sardis Church Era predominant circa 1585 A.D. to circa 1933 A.D.
The Philadelphia Church Era predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D.
The Laodicean Church Era predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present
The Churches of Revelation 2 & 3 from 31 A.D. to present
The Ephesus Church Era predominant from 31 A.D. to circa 135 A.D.
The Smyrna Church Era predominant circa 135 A.D. to circa 450 A.D.
The Pergamos Church Era predominant circa 450 A.D. to circa 1050 A.D.
The Thyatira Church Era predominant circa 1050 A.D. to circa 1585 A.D.
The Sardis Church Era predominant circa 1585 A.D. to circa 1933 A.D.
The Philadelphia Church Era predominant circa 1933 A.D. to 1986 A.D.
The Laodicean Church Era predominant circa 1986 A.D. to present
There Is A Place Of Safety For The Philadelphians - Where?
Reviewed by E.A Olatoye
on
August 13, 2021
Rating:
No comments:
Your comments and recommendations will be appreciated